Technical Aspects of Photography

poor but its good enough to function

anyways, you ment 17-85 or 17-55? o.o

cuz kit lenses are 18-55 and 17-85. o.o

I mean the EF-S 17-55 IS F/2.8
I didnt mention that it was a kit lens and it'll never be.

And of course, there's a new arrival for kit lens - the EF-S 18-200 IS.
Im waiting for the lab tests now, canon can nail it in the head if it's good and most impt of all reliable because the Nikkor's version apparently spoil quite easily..heard from CS users it spoils right out from warranty 

ohh niceee....

i think thats where wide factor comes in? XD

ohh niceee....

i think thats where wide factor comes in? XD

That is right. But of course, u still can achieve 16mm and above(compared to 14mm i think for FF) from the EF-S 10-22mm..haha